Service not working (again). UAC box popping up

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harryray2
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Service not working (again). UAC box popping up

Post by harryray2 »

Run as service is ticked, he service on my computer appears to be running. service is running in task manager but I'm getting a UAC box pop up.

I've reverted back to 1391 and the problem goes away. I haven't changed any of my settings.

I'm using portable everything on Win 7.

This happened before when I changed from 1384 to 1391, which, for some reason, corrected itself after a couple of weeks.
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Re: Service not working (again). UAC box popping up

Post by therube »

Post, Help | Troubleshooting Information.


> I'm using portable everything on Win 7.

Ditto.

In my case, I uninstall/reinstall the Service (for better or worse) on a version update.

(From within directory where Everything.exe is...)
Everything.exe -uninstall-service
(Copy newer version over top existing)
followed by
Everything.exe -install-service
(Run Everything.exe)


In my case, Service is & has always been enabled in, Tools | Options | General.


Check your shortcut that you use to run Everything.
Any switches that might be affecting things?
Is the shortcut pointing to the correct Everything & location?
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Re: Service not working (again). UAC box popping up

Post by harryray2 »

Thanks...the Everything setting are exactly the same as before, and the service is running.

As I mentioned. this happened once before when I upgraded to 1391 and I had the same problem, but for some reason it corrected itself.

When I revert back to 1391, Everything works fine.
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Re: Service not working (again). UAC box popping up

Post by void »

Everything 1.5.0.1393a fixes an issue with Everything reporting the service as partially installed. (when it was fully installed)
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Re: Service not working (again). UAC box popping up

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I installed 1393 (portable).. the service appears to be running OK, but there is still the same problem.
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Re: Service not working (again). UAC box popping up

Post by void »

In the UAC Prompt, click Show Details.

Take note the of the Program location.

What are the parameters being passed to the program location?
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Re: Service not working (again). UAC box popping up

Post by harryray2 »

I'm running Win7, the UAC box doesn't have a 'show details' box.

I've just noticed that the service running is the service for another instance of Everything I have installed. I have three Everything's in total installed but for some reason it's only starting a service for one of the other instances, rather than running the service for all the instances.

I think the service that's installed is for my original Everything, and the problem I'm having is for my second instance (the one I use daily).
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Re: Service not working (again). UAC box popping up

Post by void »

Only one service needs to be installed.

If you have multiple Everything.exe files, please make sure they are all using 1393a.
-or-
Please make sure the Everything Service is using 1393a.
-check the Everything Service Everything.exe path under Start -> Services -> Everything -> Properties -> Path to executable.
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Re: Service not working (again). UAC box popping up

Post by harryray2 »

Only one service is installed, and all the instance work with 1391 but not 1393. Nothing has been changed on Everything or the system.
When you say, Start -> Services -> Everything -> Properties -> Path to executable,,do you mean go to services.msc on the system?

I had a look at the services.msc and it shows that it is pointing to one of the other instances, but it has always been the same, and besides that, I'm having the same problem with all the instances when upgrading to 1393
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Re: Service not working (again). UAC box popping up

Post by tuska »

2harryray2
Please take a look at the picture...
 
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Windows 11 Pro (x64) Version 24H2 (OS build 26100.4061) - 2025-05-13
'Everything' 1.5.0.1393a (x64) - "Portable on system drive C:"
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Re: Service not working (again). UAC box popping up

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I am currently using the Everything Service as follows to avoid any problems:

BEFORE switching to one of the following versions
- I first REMOVE the Everything Service from the currently used Everything version (with Everything Service) and
- REINSTALL the Everything Service in the currently started Everything version (only for x64 and x86 - not as administrator)

---------------------------------------------
Everything 1.4  x64
---------------------------------------------
Everything 1.5a x64
Everything 1.5a x86
Everything 1.5a x64  as Administrator
Everything 1.5a x86  as Administrator
---------------------------------------------
Everything 1.5a x64  (file “NO_ALPHA_INSTANCE”)
Everything 1.5a x86  (file “NO_ALPHA_INSTANCE”)
Everything 1.5a x64  (file “NO_ALPHA_INSTANCE”) as Administrator
Everything 1.5a x86  (file “NO_ALPHA_INSTANCE”) as Administrator
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Everything instances
For each of the above Everything 1.5a, 1.5 x64, and x86 versions, additional Everything instances can be opened
using the same Everything Service name (from Everything-1.5.0.1280a - 14.10.2021).

I suspect that starting with Everything 1.5 Beta, there will only be ONE Everything Service called “Everything”
which will apply to all instances (including x64 and x86).
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Re: Service not working (again). UAC box popping up

Post by NotNull »

I seem to remeber that the Everything Service only accepts requests from applications that are signed with the same certificate (security measure).
The certficate changed with version 1392.
Might be wrong though.

Worth checking what version of Everything64.exe is being used for the service(s).


In general, Everything 1.5 can have 2 services:
- An Everything service for the unnamed instance (in case of alpha instance = 0)
- An Everything (1.5a) service for all named instances.
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Re: Service not working (again). UAC box popping up

Post by harryray2 »

Thanks, if the certificate has changed, how do I go about correcting that, or is it a case of it can't be done with Win 7?

As I mentioned, this happened before when I upgraded from 1384 to 1391 but the problem disappeared after a couple of weeks. Could this also have been the result of an incorrect certificate?
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Re: Service not working (again). UAC box popping up

Post by void »

Thanks, if the certificate has changed, how do I go about correcting that, or is it a case of it can't be done with Win 7?
There's nothing you need to change.


As I mentioned, this happened before when I upgraded from 1384 to 1391
Nothing has changed to the service between these versions.
So it's a little weird you're getting a UAC prompt when the service is installed correctly.

It's not clear to me what is even requesting the UAC prompt.

UAC prompt on Windows 7 should look like:
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(Show details at the bottom left)


I seem to remeber that the Everything Service only accepts requests from applications that are signed with the same certificate
Older versions only allowed the same exe to connect.
You had to have a service installed for each exe.
This was removed to allow for multiple exe versions to connect so only one service was required.



Maybe the task manager will help show the current state of Everything.
In the Task Manager, click the Details view.
Show the Command line and User Name columns.
What is shown for all your Everything.exe processes?
Please upload a screenshot in a bug report.



When is the UAC prompt shown?
eg: When you click a shortcut to Everything or on startup.
therube
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Re: Service not working (again). UAC box popping up

Post by therube »

Ah, the 'ol hidden details "button" trick.
Never even considered that before.
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(Oh, & yes, I'm aware that the -instance 15 [for Service install/uninstall purposes] is for not, but I've done it for so long now, so I'll continue [that tradition] ;-).
And yes, I name mine "15" rather then "1.5" or "1.5a".)
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Re: Service not working (again). UAC box popping up

Post by void »

Are you opening Everything from the taskbar?
-If so, please try right clicking the Taskbar button, right click Everything and click Properties.
In the Target, remove any parameters passed to Everything.
It should look like:
"C:\Program Files\Everything 1.5a\Everything64.exe"
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Re: Service not working (again). UAC box popping up

Post by void »

Everything 1.5.0.1394a will no longer allow untrusted connections to the Everything Service.

Only executables signed by voidtools can connect to the Everything Service.
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