Search with Punctuation
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Search with Punctuation
Hello , is there is away to search around Punctuation
for example
i have 3 dupe folders or files for EXAMPLE iF I search for
AAA_BBB_ZZZ
RESULT ONLY SHOWS
AAA_BBB_ZZZ
However there is also file named
AAA BBB ZZZ
and
AAA.BBB.ZZZ
and
AAA-BBB-ZZZ
i want to be able to search for same file names and the ignore all Punctuation or search around it and everything tool will make it looks like space
because when i search for names with space all result does show up
please help , thanks in advance.
for example
i have 3 dupe folders or files for EXAMPLE iF I search for
AAA_BBB_ZZZ
RESULT ONLY SHOWS
AAA_BBB_ZZZ
However there is also file named
AAA BBB ZZZ
and
AAA.BBB.ZZZ
and
AAA-BBB-ZZZ
i want to be able to search for same file names and the ignore all Punctuation or search around it and everything tool will make it looks like space
because when i search for names with space all result does show up
please help , thanks in advance.
Re: Search with Punctuation
Search for:
AAA BBB ZZZ
Instead of:
AAA_BBB_ZZZ
If you are pasting this text, please try Everything 1.5 and use Ctrl + Shift + V to paste without punctuation.
AAA BBB ZZZ
Instead of:
AAA_BBB_ZZZ
If you are pasting this text, please try Everything 1.5 and use Ctrl + Shift + V to paste without punctuation.
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Re: Search with Punctuation
Yes i use copy and paste sometimes
but how about the advanced search with text file ?
is there is an option to be add to the search tab under ignore Punctuation and be called paste avoid Punctuation or something a like
because ignore Punctuation does not work for paste ?
thanks.
but how about the advanced search with text file ?
is there is an option to be add to the search tab under ignore Punctuation and be called paste avoid Punctuation or something a like
because ignore Punctuation does not work for paste ?
thanks.
Re: Search with Punctuation
Please consider the following filter:
Please note: search operators and path separators will be converted to spaces when this filter is active.
To always remove punctuation when pasting text (not recommended):
I will consider a ignore punctuation in search option.
Thank you for the suggestion.
- In Everything 1.5, from the Search menu, click Add to filters....
- Change the Name to:
Remove Punctuation - Change the Search to:
#[regex-replace:#[:search:#]:,"[`~!@#$%^&*()\-=_+{}|\[\]\\;':,./<>?\x22\x00-\x1f]"," "#]: - Change the Macro to:
removepunc<search> - Click OK.
Please note: search operators and path separators will be converted to spaces when this filter is active.
To always remove punctuation when pasting text (not recommended):
- In Everything 1.5, from the Tools menu, click Options.
- Click the Advanced tab on the left.
- To the right of Show settings containing, search for:
paste - Select search_edit_paste_format.
- Set the value to:
<regex-replace:<regex-replace:$newtext:,"[`~!@#$%^&*()\-=_+{}|\[\]\\;':,./<>?\x22\x00-\x1f]"," ">," +"," "> - Click OK.
I will consider a ignore punctuation in search option.
Thank you for the suggestion.
Last edited by void on Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:16 am, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Search with Punctuation
i dont want to open a new post so here is 2 question
If pasting this text, please try Everything 1.5 and use Ctrl + Shift + V to paste without punctuation. not sure why this isn't working
this is not working for me using the latest alpha version
i tried ignore punctuation checked on and off
also when i try the add filter
and paste a text
regex-replace:JPEG1 2023 ," +"," "]
These are shown inside the search bar however there is result but not showing using this method
please help
If pasting this text, please try Everything 1.5 and use Ctrl + Shift + V to paste without punctuation. not sure why this isn't working
this is not working for me using the latest alpha version
i tried ignore punctuation checked on and off
also when i try the add filter
and paste a text
regex-replace:JPEG1 2023 ," +"," "]
These are shown inside the search bar however there is result but not showing using this method
please help
Last edited by A7A on Mon Aug 14, 2023 1:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Search with Punctuation
Thank you for your post A7A,
Ctrl + Shift + V will only work when the search box has focus.
I missed the starting < in the format, please try:
<regex-replace:<regex-replace:$newtext:,"[`~!@#$%^&*()\-=_+{}|\[\]\\;':,./<>?\x22\x00-\x1f]"," ">," +"," ">
Ctrl + Shift + V will only work when the search box has focus.
I missed the starting < in the format, please try:
<regex-replace:<regex-replace:$newtext:,"[`~!@#$%^&*()\-=_+{}|\[\]\\;':,./<>?\x22\x00-\x1f]"," ">," +"," ">
Re: Search with Punctuation
To focus the search box, click on the search box.
When the search box has focus the flashing caret should appear.
When the search box has focus the flashing caret should appear.
Re: Search with Punctuation
1- I also have problem with the control+ shift + V
it dont work even with focus search box
using latest version of alpha version
Everything-1.5.0.1355a.x64
sometimes it works but sometimes it shows . and - and it's not supposed to do that i tried ignore Punctuation on and off
and still showing Punctuation.
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2 - I did used the
<regex-replace:<regex-replace:$newtext:,"[`~!@#$%^&*()\-=_+{}|\[\]\\;':,./<>?\x22\x00-\x1f]"," ">," +"," ">
and still not working , filter is active , Punctuation on and off , still showing
if im searching for
25.pal.x64_portable
still paste with dots and _
im lost not sure what to do anymore
Last edited by A7A on Sat Aug 19, 2023 4:34 am, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Search with Punctuation
Please use more interpunction (oh, the irony ) and capitalization in your message.
It is hard to follow in its current form ...
It is hard to follow in its current form ...
Re: Search with Punctuation
Sorry i didn't learn this at the school , i will try but right now i dont understand your answer , what to do if the paste control shift V not working
Re: Search with Punctuation
- In Everything 1.5, enable Ignore Punctuation (to be found under the Search menu entry )
- Copy the following text to the clipboard:
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notepad......exe
- Back in Everything, click in the search bar to make it active (the cursor will blink)
- Press keyboard shortcut 'CTRL + SHIFT + V' to paste the text that is currently on the clipboard ( "notepad......exe" ), but without any punctuation characters.
The search bar should now show notepad exe and should find notepad.exe
Re: Search with Punctuation
NotNull wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2023 2:26 pm
- In Everything 1.5, enable Ignore Punctuation (to be found under the Search menu entry )
- Copy the following text to the clipboard:
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notepad......exe
- Back in Everything, click in the search bar to make it active (the cursor will blink)
- Press keyboard shortcut 'CTRL + SHIFT + V' to paste the text that is currently on the clipboard ( "notepad......exe" ), but without any punctuation characters.
The search bar should now show notepad exe and should find notepad.exe
I did that tried many times , sometimes it works sometimes it dont , if i use everything app alot it dont work or when i open multi everything
something i just dont understand going on wrong
Re: Search with Punctuation
Please describe "it doesn't work": what was on the clipboard, what is shown in the search bar?, what is shown in the result list? Do you get an error message?
Make sure only the Everything entry is enabled under the Search menu (i.e. no Match Path, etc. )
Re: Search with Punctuation
I'm explaining now again , i want everything to show result for all folders and files under
25 pal x64 portable
the name i have in one folder is
25.pal.x64_portable
when i click control shift V it will paste it with dots and _ . sometimes it does paste without it but i dont change any setting that's why im going crazy over it
i even removed the app installed older version still not working and if i searched for
25.pal.x64_portable
it will show me exact thing not the files or folder that have no dots or _
is it clear now ?
Re: Search with Punctuation
Where are you copying the "25.pal.x64_portable" text from?
Ctrl+Shift+V will only work if "25.pal.x64_portable" is on the clipboard as "text".
Ctrl+Shift+V will not work if you copy the file (the actual file -not the filename text) -nothing will be pasted in this case, so I'm not sure this is happening, as you say "25.pal.x64_portable" is being pasted
Are you pasting multiple lines of text?
If so, Everything will split each line into an OR operation.
For example:
<line one>|<line two>|<line three>|<etc>
I would need to see debug logs to work out what is going on..
Ctrl+Shift+V will only work if "25.pal.x64_portable" is on the clipboard as "text".
Ctrl+Shift+V will not work if you copy the file (the actual file -not the filename text) -nothing will be pasted in this case, so I'm not sure this is happening, as you say "25.pal.x64_portable" is being pasted
Are you pasting multiple lines of text?
If so, Everything will split each line into an OR operation.
For example:
<line one>|<line two>|<line three>|<etc>
I would need to see debug logs to work out what is going on..
- In Everything, from the Tools menu, under the Debug submenu, check Verbose.
- In Everything, from the Tools menu, under the Debug submenu, check Start Debug Logging.
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Press Ctrl + Shift + V in the Everything search box.
keep trying until you see text pasted with punctuation.
--- - In Everything, from the Tools menu, under the Debug submenu, click Stop Debug Logging.
The Everything Debug Log will open in Notepad. - Please save this file to the Desktop and send to support@voidtools.com
Re: Search with Punctuation
void wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 2:22 am Where are you copying the "25.pal.x64_portable" text from?
Ctrl+Shift+V will only work if "25.pal.x64_portable" is on the clipboard as "text".
Ctrl+Shift+V will not work if you copy the file (the actual file -not the filename text) -nothing will be pasted in this case, so I'm not sure this is happening, as you say "25.pal.x64_portable" is being pasted
Are you pasting multiple lines of text?
If so, Everything will split each line into an OR operation.
For example:
<line one>|<line two>|<line three>|<etc>
I would need to see debug logs to work out what is going on..Privacy
- In Everything, from the Tools menu, under the Debug submenu, check Verbose.
- In Everything, from the Tools menu, under the Debug submenu, check Start Debug Logging.
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Press Ctrl + Shift + V in the Everything search box.
keep trying until you see text pasted with punctuation.
---- In Everything, from the Tools menu, under the Debug submenu, click Stop Debug Logging.
The Everything Debug Log will open in Notepad.- Please save this file to the Desktop and send to support@voidtools.com
I copy the names from Text files , from folders name using f2 or copyfilename software or i use everything to copy names
i also wish there is away to copy the parent dir of a file or of a folder like
MAIN\FOLDER\FILE.MP3 wish there is options just to copy the parent dir which is FOLDER
without edit the path after copying
Re: Search with Punctuation
Thank you for the logs.
The issue has something to do with having a RTL and LTR keyboard installed and Ctrl + Shift changing the input from RTL/LTR.
Are you using the left or right Ctrl/Shift?
Please try changing the keyboard shortcut:
To prevent Ctrl + Shift from changing your input and layout:
The issue has something to do with having a RTL and LTR keyboard installed and Ctrl + Shift changing the input from RTL/LTR.
Are you using the left or right Ctrl/Shift?
Please try changing the keyboard shortcut:
- In Everything, from the Tools menu, click Options.
- Click the Keyboard tab on the left.
- To the right of Show commands containing, search for:
paste - Select Search Edit | Paste Without Punctuation.
- Click Edit....
- Press a new keyboard shortcut (for example: Ctrl + Alt + V) and click OK.
- Click OK.
To prevent Ctrl + Shift from changing your input and layout:
- In Everything 1.5, from the Tools menu, click Options.
- Click the Advanced tab on the left.
- To the right of Show settings containing, search for:
control - Select control_shift_action.
- Set the value to: None
- Click OK.
Re: Search with Punctuation
Hello , yes im using keyboard right to left and left to right to switch between 5 keyboard languages , i have to use them so now i set it up to
control alt v and it works great , thank you
control alt v and it works great , thank you
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Re: Search with Punctuation
I think this would be better to have an option just to ignore all Punctuation when pasting no matter using CTRL SHIFT V Or just CTRL + V
Re: Search with Punctuation
I will add an option to remove punctuation when pasting text and Search -> Ignore Punctuation is enabled.
Thank you for the suggestions.
Thank you for the suggestions.
Re: Search with Punctuation
Everything 1.5.0.1356a adds an advanced setting to ignore punctuation in the search box when Ignore Punctuation is enabled under the Search menu.
To ignore punctuation in the search box when Ignore Punctuation is enabled under the Search menu:
Everything will continue to treat : / \ as path separators.
: / \ and are ignored when used with a search function that supports Ignore Punctuation.
For example:
name:a:bc\123
is the same as:
name:abc123
:a: == awesome...
To ignore punctuation in the search box when Ignore Punctuation is enabled under the Search menu:
- In Everything 1.5, from the Tools menu, click Options.
- Click the Advanced tab on the left.
- To the right of Show settings containing, search for:
punc - Select ignore_punctuation_type.
- Set the value to: Filename and search
- Click OK.
Everything will continue to treat : / \ as path separators.
: / \ and are ignored when used with a search function that supports Ignore Punctuation.
For example:
name:a:bc\123
is the same as:
name:abc123
:a: == awesome...
Re: Search with Punctuation
Will Everything join the strings on both sides of the punctuation, and form a new string?
In that case, this combined string won't be found, which means a false negative.
Instead, the punctuation should be replaced with a space.
That way, even if the actual file has both tokens on either side of the punctuation mark, it will be found.
That is how CTRL+SHFT+V works.
In that case, this combined string won't be found, which means a false negative.
Instead, the punctuation should be replaced with a space.
That way, even if the actual file has both tokens on either side of the punctuation mark, it will be found.
That is how CTRL+SHFT+V works.
Re: Search with Punctuation
I have selected this option. But it does not work as expected.
The word "baarish" occurs in a few file names in my collection.
I tried to search for baarish and baa rish, both times all these files were found.
But when I entered baa,rish in the search box, the search could not find these files at all.
I removed the comma and the search found all files.
The word "baarish" occurs in a few file names in my collection.
I tried to search for baarish and baa rish, both times all these files were found.
But when I entered baa,rish in the search box, the search could not find these files at all.
I removed the comma and the search found all files.
Re: Search with Punctuation
I will look into converting punctuation to spaces.
(same as Ctrl + Shift + V)
-This might make it impossible to search for : / or \ in full paths.
Thank you for the suggestion.
Please try changing your search and applying ignore_punctuation_type.
The next alpha update will automatically refresh your search after changing this setting.
Do you have any other search options checked?
(same as Ctrl + Shift + V)
-This might make it impossible to search for : / or \ in full paths.
Thank you for the suggestion.
baa,rish appears to find baarish here. (with just Ingore Punctuation checked)But when I entered baa,rish in the search box, the search could not find these files at all.
Please try changing your search and applying ignore_punctuation_type.
The next alpha update will automatically refresh your search after changing this setting.
Do you have any other search options checked?
Re: Search with Punctuation
I had just followed the instructions and selected the "Filename and search" option for the Ignore_punctuation_type setting.
When I select the other option ("Filename only") and restart Everything, it cannot find any results for Baa,rish.
In other words, I get the same result regardless of the Ignore_punctuation_type setting.
When I select the other option ("Filename only") and restart Everything, it cannot find any results for Baa,rish.
In other words, I get the same result regardless of the Ignore_punctuation_type setting.
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Re: Search with Punctuation
I just installed the latest Alpha version and when I search for
AAA_BBB
The results will be
AAA_BBB and AAA.BBB
However there is
AAA BBB
Can you please make it possible to treat Punctuation as space when pasting or feeding the search with a text from advanced search?
Thank you.
AAA_BBB
The results will be
AAA_BBB and AAA.BBB
However there is
AAA BBB
Can you please make it possible to treat Punctuation as space when pasting or feeding the search with a text from advanced search?
Thank you.
Re: Search with Punctuation
Yes, the next alpha update will have an option to do this.
I'll have an update soon and will make another post here.
Thank you for the suggestion.
I'll have an update soon and will make another post here.
Thank you for the suggestion.
Re: Search with Punctuation
I hope the update addresses the issue I mentioned (3 posts before this one)
Re: Search with Punctuation
I hope this gets addressed in the new version!Raindrops wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:53 am I had just followed the instructions and selected the "Filename and search" option for the Ignore_punctuation_type setting.
When I select the other option ("Filename only") and restart Everything, it cannot find any results for Baa,rish.
In other words, I get the same result regardless of the Ignore_punctuation_type setting.
Re: Search with Punctuation
Everything 1.5.0.1357a fixes an issue with search_edit_paste_format.
Setting search_edit_paste_format to:
<regex-replace:<regex-replace:$newtext:,"[`~!@#$%^&*()\-=_+{}|\[\]\\;':,./<>?\x22\x00-\x1f]"," ">," +"," ">
should now work as expected.
ignore_punctuation_type=1 will now ignore all punctuation in the search box.
Setting search_edit_paste_format to:
<regex-replace:<regex-replace:$newtext:,"[`~!@#$%^&*()\-=_+{}|\[\]\\;':,./<>?\x22\x00-\x1f]"," ">," +"," ">
should now work as expected.
ignore_punctuation_type=1 will now ignore all punctuation in the search box.
Re: Search with Punctuation
I upgraded to the Everything 1.5.0.1357a, and my punctuation type is set to "filename and search".
And yet Everything is unable to ignore punctuation, except space.
For example, I get several results when I search for Baarish and Baa rish (Everything ignores embedded space).
But I don't get any results with Baa,rish, Baari'sh, Ba=arish, Baaris;h, etc.
And yet Everything is unable to ignore punctuation, except space.
For example, I get several results when I search for Baarish and Baa rish (Everything ignores embedded space).
But I don't get any results with Baa,rish, Baari'sh, Ba=arish, Baaris;h, etc.
Re: Search with Punctuation
Do you have regular expressions enabled under the Search menu?
-Please try disabling this option.
What search options are checked under the Search menu?
What is your active filter?
-Please try disabling this option.
What search options are checked under the Search menu?
What is your active filter?
Re: Search with Punctuation
RegRx was not enabled at all.
In fact, none of the options are selected at present!
In fact, none of the options are selected at present!
Re: Search with Punctuation
Ignore Punctuation must be enabled under the Search menu.
Re: Search with Punctuation
Yes, it works! Thanks for the clarification.
BTW I found that Everything replaces the punctuation mark with a space. (it does not join the string on both sides of that punctuation mark).
This is in fact a good thing: Everything finds item names that have both substrings anywhere in the name.
For example, in my experiment, I inserted = in the middle of the search string Baarish.
Everything not only found items that have Baarish, but also items that have both baa and rish in their name.
BTW I found that Everything replaces the punctuation mark with a space. (it does not join the string on both sides of that punctuation mark).
This is in fact a good thing: Everything finds item names that have both substrings anywhere in the name.
For example, in my experiment, I inserted = in the middle of the search string Baarish.
Everything not only found items that have Baarish, but also items that have both baa and rish in their name.
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Re: Search with Punctuation
You can use regular expressions to substitute any punctuation marks with a space or use wildcard characters to represent the punctuation marks. For instance,
Ex..
Ex..
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AAA[_\.\s-]BBB[_\.\s-]ZZZ