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sheppaul
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identify multiple removable disks by its label.

Post by sheppaul » Fri Dec 25, 2015 6:58 pm

Hello,
Thank for a great tool.

Currently, everything does not distinguish multiple removable hdds when attached via a hdd dock.
And I'd like to see the label of removable HDD.

Is there any easy way to manage/identify multiple removable hdds using hdd labels or hdd serial numbers?
If I changed the drive letter of removable hdd, everything simply make another same data copy of the hdd.

sheppaul
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Re: identify multiple removable disks by its label.

Post by sheppaul » Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:23 pm

Hello again,

I've just formatted C: drive while newly installing Windows 10. I have 8 hard drives on my system and 7 additional hard disk using HDD docking station. After reinstalling OS, the drive letters of hard disks are messed up for some reason. So I should change it manually. There is no problem with built-in hard disks when changing its drive letters. However, as you may see the following screenshot from Everything options - Indexes - NTFS - Local NTFS Volumes of my own, everything makes a copy of the indexes of external HDDs using docking system.

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When I insert my HDDs one by one, operating system recognize it as a drive all "F" initially. In that reason, I have no choice but to reassign drive letters to recognize easily while searching with everything. Everything duplicates the HDD indexes of renaming its drive letter.

Could you make it possible to keep one indexes for a same serial number of HDD or whatever if it is possible to distinguish among many HDDs? Please add volume label of removable disk for HDDs if possible like this: Removable Disk (F: label)

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Re: identify multiple removable disks by its label.

Post by void » Sun Aug 07, 2016 2:14 am

I've changed the way Everything will handle volumes that have 'moved' for the next release of Everything.

If everything has detected that a volume has been moved to a new drive letter, the old drive letter will always be removed.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Hope to have a beta update soon..

sheppaul
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Re: identify multiple removable disks by its label.

Post by sheppaul » Sun Aug 07, 2016 3:14 am

Glad to hear that.

When a hard disk is inserted into usb hdd docking station, the index seems to be added without enabling the option: "Automatically include new removable volumes". The docked hard disk seems like working as if it is fixed drive. Please confirm if it is an expected action. What kinds of device can be a removable volume for NTFS hard drive? When will the above option work?

keep up the good work!
Best regards

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Re: identify multiple removable disks by its label.

Post by void » Sun Aug 07, 2016 10:03 am

Windows treats external USB drives as fixed volumes and so does Everything.

A removable drive would be a CD/DVD drive or floppy drive.

Rene
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Re: identify multiple removable disks by its label.

Post by Rene » Fri Nov 04, 2016 7:28 am

hey all, new here,

i'm very interested in indexing about a dozen usb/removable drives but i don't know if Everything will do what's in the title ?

ideally, i'd like if the disk labels were displayed instead of the drive letter for usb drives, is that possible?

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Re: identify multiple removable disks by its label.

Post by void » Fri Nov 04, 2016 8:35 am

File lists might be the best way to do this.

Create a file list of each of your dozen USB drives:
  • For each USB drive:
    • In Everything, from the Tools menu, click File list editor.
    • In the File list editor, From the Edit menu, click Add Folder...
    • Select your USB drive and click OK.
    • From the File menu, click Save as...
    • Create a filename and click OK.
File lists are csv files, you can change the root drive letter to anything you like with notepad.
  • In Notepad, from the File menu, click Open.
  • Select your file list and click OK.
  • From the Edit menu, click Find and replace
  • Replace E: with your custom label (eg: USB Photos:), where E: is the USB drive.
  • Click Replace All.
  • Save changes
To add a file list to the Everything index:
  • In Everything, from the Tools menu, click Options.
  • Click the File lists tab
  • For each file list you created:
    • Click Add...
    • Select your file list and click OK.
  • Click OK.

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Re: identify multiple removable disks by its label.

Post by Rene » Sun Nov 06, 2016 5:41 am

thank you Void, i'm very interested in this feature but seems complicated, i understand the steps, just so many of them.

may i make a suggestion, to greatly simplify this, i'm sure alot of ppl have offline storage as either backup or just storage (floppy? cd? dvd/bluray/thumbdrives, hdd even large flashdrives 128/256gb are coming can be used for storage).

what if instead of just keeping the drive letter for all drives, why not the volume label too ?

Then Everything would display it when a drive is offline.

that could be an avenue.

cheers my new friend, i wish i'd discovered Everything long ago !

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Re: identify multiple removable disks by its label.

Post by void » Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:31 am

what if instead of just keeping the drive letter for all drives, why not the volume label too ?
You can do that too, keep the drive letters the same, except name your file list the same as your volume label.
Show the File list filename column by right clicking your header column.

This eliminates the second part of my post above about editing the file list with notepad. As for simplifying the rest I would probably have to add a file list wizard.

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Re: identify multiple removable disks by its label.

Post by Rene » Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:01 pm

thank you but actually, i meant instead of doing those steps with file list.

here's what i mean: Everything scans any drive, you can add a line of code to save the disk label with each file and at a later time when we use Evt to do a search and a resulting hit is on an offline drive, then display the label instead of drive letter in the results.

on the user part, it merely requires the activation of do not delete offline drives from database.

in code it would mean adding an extra bit of info when you scan drives , just the label.
then as results are displayed check if drive is online, if not show label.

its a rather simple solution and doesn't need static file lists that could be quickly obsolete if we change something on the drive and forget to redo the list.

i hope this is usefull to you, i'm open to discussing it more and even testing it for you.

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Re: identify multiple removable disks by its label.

Post by void » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:18 am

Thanks for the suggestion, some good ideas here..

I like the idea of automatically scanning all drives, and recording the drive label in the database.
Added to my TODO list: Rescan the indexed folder of a offline drive when it is re-inserted and the last scheduled update was missed.

Not much will change in Everything 1.4, I will definitely review this in Everything 1.5.

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Re: identify multiple removable disks by its label.

Post by Rene » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:21 pm

excellent ! i can't wait to test this :D

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Re: identify multiple removable disks by its label.

Post by Rene » Sat Jul 08, 2017 4:18 am

hey there Void,

i was thinking, your idea to rescan the files (as mentioned in your post above mine here), it doesn't have to be automatic, but it could be manual, simply by right-clicking the drive in explorer we could add/refresh the drive into the database.

Everything could also just ask us if we plan to keep this drive in the db for offline searching.

Any idea on when this feature could be tested ?

ps:also can we add/refresh via an ETP connection to a server over Lan ?

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Re: identify multiple removable disks by its label.

Post by void » Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:47 am

Any idea on when this feature could be tested ?
No idea, sorry.
ps:also can we add/refresh via an ETP connection to a server over Lan ?
Yes, I have plans to add an index server and support indexing ETP servers in Everything 1.5

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Re: identify multiple removable disks by its label.

Post by Cleoss » Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:51 pm

void wrote:File lists might be the best way to do this.
File lists are csv files, you can change the root drive letter to anything you like with notepad.
  • In Notepad, from the File menu, click Open.
  • Select your file list and click OK.
  • From the Edit menu, click Find and replace
  • Replace E: with your custom label (eg: USB Photos:), where E: is the USB drive.
  • Click Replace All.
  • Save changes
If we have got a large file 100 MB+, I'd better prefer not standard Notepad (which can hang down for some minutes), but the portable app EmEditor which is fast and can load huge files in a moment, uses low resources.

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Re: identify multiple removable disks by its label.

Post by mczerski » Sat Feb 05, 2022 5:04 pm

void wrote:
Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:47 am
Any idea on when this feature could be tested ?
No idea, sorry.
ps:also can we add/refresh via an ETP connection to a server over Lan ?
Yes, I have plans to add an index server and support indexing ETP servers in Everything 1.5
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Hi, I am using Everything 1.5 and I seem that I cannot find the feature promised above, i.e. display of disc labels in the file list. Has it been implemented there, and if yes, then how could I set up the file listing to show disc labels? Your answer and assistance will be greatly appreciated. Best regards, Marek

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Re: identify multiple removable disks by its label.

Post by NotNull » Sat Feb 05, 2022 5:38 pm

mczerski wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 5:04 pm
Hi, I am using Everything 1.5 and I seem that I cannot find the feature promised above
I can't see any promise being made in this thread. What promise are you talking about?

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Re: identify multiple removable disks by its label.

Post by mczerski » Sat Feb 05, 2022 6:50 pm

I am not an English native speaker and I may seem I have used an unprecise or improper word: "promise". However, that’s what I have read above in this thread.

" Thanks for the suggestion, some good ideas here..
I like the idea of automatically scanning all drives, and recording the drive label in the database.
Added to my TODO list: Rescan the indexed folder of a offline drive when it is re-inserted and the last scheduled update was missed.
Not much will change in Everything 1.4, I will definitely review this in Everything 1.5. "

I am concerneed with adding and displaying volume labels to the file list.

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Re: identify multiple removable disks by its label.

Post by NotNull » Sat Feb 05, 2022 7:29 pm

Ah, I see. In that case:
  • Go to Menu:Tools > Options > Indexes > Properties
  • Click the Add button
  • In the Search box, type label
  • Double-click Volume Label
  • Press the OK button
  • Back in the main Everything window, right-click the result list header and choose Add Colums
  • In the left pane, Choose Everything Properties > Volume
  • In the right pane, double-click Volume Label
  • Done!
The progress of adding the volume label will be shown In the statusbar

When done indexing, there is an extar column with the volume label.

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Re: identify multiple removable disks by its label.

Post by raccoon » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:26 pm

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Re: identify multiple removable disks by its label.

Post by mczerski » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:48 pm

NotNull wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 7:29 pm
Ah, I see. In that case:
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Hi,
Thanks a lot for your adrice. It works great!!!
Cheers, Marek

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Re: identify multiple removable disks by its label.

Post by Rene » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:54 pm

NotNull wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 7:29 pm
Ah, I see. In that case:
  • Go to Menu:Tools > Options > Indexes > Properties
  • Click the Add button
  • In the Search box, type label
  • Double-click Volume Label
  • Press the OK button
  • Back in the main Everything window, right-click the result list header and choose Add Colums
  • In the left pane, Choose Everything Properties > Volume
  • In the right pane, double-click Volume Label
  • Done!
The progress of adding the volume label will be shown In the statusbar

When done indexing, there is an extar column with the volume label.
Brava! Love this! Thank you David and all who worked to get this done!

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Re: identify multiple removable disks by its label.

Post by raccoon » Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:41 pm

It would seem that the property Index Volume Label loads 1,000,000x faster than Volume Label.

I cannot determine a practical difference between these two properties, and feel like the weaker one should be discarded if there is none.

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Re: identify multiple removable disks by its label.

Post by NotNull » Sat Feb 05, 2022 10:57 pm

There are probably more differences, but an exFAT formatted USB disk does not show any Index Volume Label, whereas it does show it's Volume Label.

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Re: identify multiple removable disks by its label.

Post by void » Sun Feb 06, 2022 12:17 am

Index Volume Label is the volume label at the time of indexing.
It will not change until you rebuild your indexes.
This will be useful for offline volumes.

I will add a caching system to help with volume label performance.

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Re: identify multiple removable disks by its label.

Post by raccoon » Sun Feb 06, 2022 12:22 am

void wrote:
Sun Feb 06, 2022 12:17 am
It will not change until you rebuild your indexes.
Is there a difference between rebuilding our Indexes, and rebuilding our Properties? Once a property has been indexed, it too remains static until rebuilt, does it not?

I presume that the Volume Label property consumes additional RAM than Index Volume Label as the latter is already captured and stored?
NotNull wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 10:57 pm
There are probably more differences, but an exFAT formatted USB disk does not show any Index Volume Label, whereas it does show it's Volume Label.
My exFAT volume(s) do show the Index Volume Label just fine, when added under Indexes -> FAT, but not when added under Indexes -> Folders.

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Re: identify multiple removable disks by its label.

Post by void » Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:30 am

Is there a difference between rebuilding our Indexes, and rebuilding our Properties?
Forcing a rebuild will clear your existing property indexes.
There is no option to rebuild just the property index yet.

Property management is still in development.


Once a property has been indexed, it too remains static until rebuilt, does it not?
Everything will regather properties for files that are modified.


I presume that the Volume Label property consumes additional RAM than Index Volume Label as the latter is already captured and stored?
Correct.


My exFAT volume(s) do show the Index Volume Label just fine, when added under Indexes -> FAT, but not when added under Indexes -> Folders.
Everything currently doesn't see folders as volumes.
I will consider caching the volume label for folder indexes.

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Re: identify multiple removable disks by its label.

Post by void » Tue Feb 22, 2022 6:09 am

Everything 1.5.0.1301a adds support for labels to folder indexes.

I am still working on showing labels in the treeview.

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Re: identify multiple removable disks by its label.

Post by void » Thu Feb 24, 2022 5:05 am

Everything 1.5.0.1302a adds a treeview_labels ini setting.

To show labels in the folder sidebar:
  • In Everything, type in the following search and press ENTER:
    /treeview_labels=1
  • If successful, treeview_labels=1 is shown in the status bar for a few seconds.
This setting needs to mature before it is enabled by default.

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Re: identify multiple removable disks by its label.

Post by raccoon » Thu Feb 24, 2022 5:16 am

Is the Folders Sidebar going to be the only 'treeview' used in Everything? /foldersview_labels= ?

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Re: identify multiple removable disks by its label.

Post by void » Thu Feb 24, 2022 5:20 am

Yes, 'treeview' will be the folder sidebar.

However, I will use the term folder sidebar in the UI.

I will consider changing the setting names to folder_sidebar_xxx

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