1307, Teracopy not working in latest Everything release.

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harryray2
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1307, Teracopy not working in latest Everything release.

Post by harryray2 » Fri Apr 08, 2022 7:59 pm

With the new release of Everything, when using paste or paste to parent folder, Teracopy does not work any more...I'm getting the standard windows dialogue.

This is causing me problems as I rely on Teracopy for file collisions, copying and moving. I've temporarily had to revert to 1306.

Thanks.
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Re: 1307, Teracopy not working in latest Everything release.

Post by therube » Fri Apr 08, 2022 8:04 pm

Not familiar, but might you need to go into TC again & tell it (again) to take over from Windows?
(But then if simply by reverting... then maybe not.)

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Re: 1307, Teracopy not working in latest Everything release.

Post by harryray2 » Fri Apr 08, 2022 8:14 pm

Thanks, but it's working as usual in Windows and the previous Everything version (1306).
Possibly a new .ini setting?

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Re: 1307, Teracopy not working in latest Everything release.

Post by harryray2 » Fri Apr 08, 2022 8:33 pm

Sorry, I should have said it's working in 1304..I didn't bother changing to 1305 and went straight to 1307.

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Re: 1307, Teracopy not working in latest Everything release.

Post by horst.epp » Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:21 pm

For me Teracopy 3.9 is still working fine with Everything 1307.
If I paste the following dialog comes up for example
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Re: 1307, Teracopy not working in latest Everything release.

Post by harryray2 » Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:36 pm

I've set my Teracopy to not show the option for Explorer but to go straight into Teracopy.
I've tried it again using 1304 and it works perfectly..1307 just pops up the Explorer option.
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Re: 1307, Teracopy not working in latest Everything release.

Post by harryray2 » Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:53 pm

It appears to be that the problem is with parent paste...

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Re: 1307, Teracopy not working in latest Everything release.

Post by harryray2 » Sat Apr 09, 2022 12:32 am

I tried pasting with hot key but I got the same result, but I then assigned a hotkey to hot parent paste and this worked but of course only on one search result item.

Baffled :shock:

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Re: 1307, Teracopy not working in latest Everything release.

Post by void » Sat Apr 09, 2022 12:34 am

Are you pasting into multiple folders?

-If so, Everything 1306+ will now handle the paste with IFileOperation.
Does Teracopy have an option to replace IFileOperation?

I will add an option to disable IFileOperation and fall back to calling the paste verb on each folder.

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Re: 1307, Teracopy not working in latest Everything release.

Post by harryray2 » Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:12 am

Thanks David, yes, I'm pasting into multiple folders.

Not sure about an option to replace lfileoperation as, to be honest, I really don't know what that is but I can't see it on any of the Teracopy options.

Is there a chance of adding the option to disable this and going back to the original behaviour asap? It's causing a large headache.

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Re: 1307, Teracopy not working in latest Everything release.

Post by void » Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:23 am

I'll post an update soon.

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Re: 1307, Teracopy not working in latest Everything release.

Post by harryray2 » Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:26 am

That's great...thanks so much.

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Re: 1307, Teracopy not working in latest Everything release.

Post by void » Sat Apr 09, 2022 6:53 am

Everything 1.5.0.1308 adds a paste_file_operation ini setting.


To disable move/copy file operations when pasting:
  • In Everything, type in the following search and press ENTER:
    /paste_file_operation=0
  • If successful, paste_file_operation=0 is shown in the status bar for a few seconds.
When disabled, Everything will execute each folder with the paste verb.
This will make it difficult to cancel and undo operations.

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Re: 1307, Teracopy not working in latest Everything release.

Post by harryray2 » Sat Apr 09, 2022 8:24 am

Thanks so much for that...really quick. I'll try it out later on.

I'm not that bothered about the cancel and undo as I use undo mainly to monitor what's been done. I assume that there's no problem with Everything showing the changed files?

Out of curiosity, why has this made the operations more difficult?

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Re: 1307, Teracopy not working in latest Everything release.

Post by harryray2 » Sat Apr 09, 2022 8:46 am

Just tried it out, appears to be working normally again.

I can't see any immediate problem with undo.

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Re: 1307, Teracopy not working in latest Everything release.

Post by JTCGiants56 » Sat Apr 09, 2022 7:28 pm

harryray2 wrote:
Fri Apr 08, 2022 7:59 pm
With the new release of Everything, when using paste or paste to parent folder, Teracopy does not work any more...I'm getting the standard windows dialogue.

This is causing me problems as I rely on Teracopy for file collisions, copying and moving. I've temporarily had to revert to 1306.

Thanks.
I'm not sure what version of windows you're using, but it seems this version of Teracopy stopped working with the latest Windows 11 build 50% of the time. Half the time, the program crashes as soon as you do an operation. I'm usually copying from within everything, so not sure if that was related.

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Re: 1307, Teracopy not working in latest Everything release.

Post by harryray2 » Sat Apr 09, 2022 7:37 pm

I'm using Windows 7...Teracopy is working again (perfectly) with Everything build 1308.

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Re: 1307, Teracopy not working in latest Everything release.

Post by horst.epp » Sat Apr 09, 2022 7:59 pm

JTCGiants56 wrote:
Sat Apr 09, 2022 7:28 pm
harryray2 wrote:
Fri Apr 08, 2022 7:59 pm
With the new release of Everything, when using paste or paste to parent folder, Teracopy does not work any more...I'm getting the standard windows dialogue.

This is causing me problems as I rely on Teracopy for file collisions, copying and moving. I've temporarily had to revert to 1306.

Thanks.
I'm not sure what version of windows you're using, but it seems this version of Teracopy stopped working with the latest Windows 11 build 50% of the time. Half the time, the program crashes as soon as you do an operation. I'm usually copying from within everything, so not sure if that was related.
I'm using TeraCopy 3.9 (the newest version) and it works fine with latest production version of Windows 11.
Also within Everything.
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Windows 11 Home x64 Version 21H2 (OS Build 22000.593)
Everything 1.5.0.1308a (x64)

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Re: 1307, Teracopy not working in latest Everything release.

Post by JTCGiants56 » Sat Apr 09, 2022 8:03 pm

horst.epp wrote:
Sat Apr 09, 2022 7:59 pm
JTCGiants56 wrote:
Sat Apr 09, 2022 7:28 pm
harryray2 wrote:
Fri Apr 08, 2022 7:59 pm
With the new release of Everything, when using paste or paste to parent folder, Teracopy does not work any more...I'm getting the standard windows dialogue.

This is causing me problems as I rely on Teracopy for file collisions, copying and moving. I've temporarily had to revert to 1306.

Thanks.
I'm not sure what version of windows you're using, but it seems this version of Teracopy stopped working with the latest Windows 11 build 50% of the time. Half the time, the program crashes as soon as you do an operation. I'm usually copying from within everything, so not sure if that was related.
I'm using TeraCopy 3.9 (the newest version) and it works fine with latest production version of Windows 11.
Also within Everything.
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Windows 11 Home x64 Version 21H2 (OS Build 22000.593)
Everything 1.5.0.1308a (x64)
Oh okay, the settings screenshot looked like from the 3.26 version i'm using.

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Re: 1307, Teracopy not working in latest Everything release.

Post by void » Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:11 am

I'm not that bothered about the cancel and undo as I use undo mainly to monitor what's been done. I assume that there's no problem with Everything showing the changed files?
Yes, Everything will detect changes fine.
However, Everything cannot use the file system changes to add an undo operation.


Out of curiosity, why has this made the operations more difficult?
Previous versions of Everything would just execute the paste verb on each folder.
There is no feedback from executing the paste verb.
The paste verb does not support very long filenames (larger than 259 characters).
Everything doesn't know if the paste was successful, cancelled or if the OS pasted with a different filename (appended " - copy").

In other words, Everything will continue to execute the paste verb on each folder, even if you cancel the first one.
Everything will just add a best-guess undo operation and assume the paste will successful.


By using a system 'file operation', Everything can:
Paste really long filenames.
Add an undo operation that will handle all successful moves/copies (even when the filename is changed by the OS).
Allow cancel to abort the entire paste operation.
Allow Yes to All / No to All operations.

This only applies to pasting to multiple folders.

For pasting to a single folder, Everything will always execute with the paste verb.
Unless, either the source filename or destination filename would be larger than 259 characters.

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